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	<title>Comments on: Oracle Silent Mode, Part 1: Installation Of 10.2 And 11.1 Databases</title>
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		<title>By: Oracle Silent Mode, Part 9: Remove a Node from an 11.1 RAC database</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oracle Silent Mode, Part 9: Remove a Node from an 11.1 RAC database</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Installation of 10.2 And 11.1 Databases [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Charles Meo</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-288594</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Meo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-288594</guid>
		<description>Seen this one, didn't help. Oracle documentation for silent installation is fairly useless. For a start, it's not at all clear to me what groups of parameters are the minimum to get a particular part of EM working. It also doesn't really cover what I'm trying to do, which, following the procedures in these articles, is to set up oracle in three stages: 

1/ install software
2/ create database and listener (-emconfiguration NONE)
3/ setup emca

Parts one and two are working like clockwork. Part three--not so much.

So, first I need to remove sysman, or emca crashes out. Is this bad or good? I dunno...found some code that does this.

Then unlocked DBSNMP and set password (also not documented) since I saw errors relating to this in early attempts. 

Knocked together a script by a little guesswork and mostly piecing together things from the net:
emca -config dbcontrol db -repos create -silent -SID oracle1 -PORT 1521 -ORACLE_HOME /u01/app/oracle -ORACLE_HOSTNAME prd-db-1 -DBSNMP_PWD dbsnmp -SYSMAN_PWD sysman -SYS_PWD ora123

emca likes this well enough, and completes..

INFO: Repository successfully created

however...
emdb.nohup:
The agentTZRegion value in /u01/app/oracle/ltxe-
nabb-prd-db-1_nabbprdexp1/sysman/config/emd.properties is not in agreement with 
what agent thinks it should be.Please verify your environment to make sure that 
TZ setting has not changed since the last start of the agent.
emdctl.trc:
2008-10-10 15:36:18 Thread-1 WARN  http: snmehl_connect: connect failed to (prd-db-1:3938): Connection refused (error = 146)
emoms.log:
2008-10-10 14:31:21,203 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextIni
tialized.271 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsCal
GrpIntegration
emoms.trc:
2008-10-10 14:31:21,203 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextIni
tialized.271 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsCal
GrpIntegration

After a good chunk of my life is wasted, get this:
SEVERE: Error starting Database Control

These are all issues I'm finding in hundreds of posts and everyone seems to be guessing what the cause is. I've seen some references to TZ issues and have three observations on that:
1/ TZ is set correctly in oracle's environment and Australia/Victoria is supposedly a supported value
2/ Oracle thinks this timezone is GMT+11, which is wrong. It's +10 except during EDT. Larry needs to check his homework more carefully.
3/ WTF? If the TZ doesn't work out, fall back to a default. Since when is this a critical error? What boneheads code this stuff?

The really infuriating bit is that with the interactive dbca option at initial install time, runInstaller sets up EM just fine, but I cannot find this code path!

One more observation: having EM log its problems in eight(?) different locations does not strike me as best practice.

Yes I am really pissed off with this!

Chuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seen this one, didn&#8217;t help. Oracle documentation for silent installation is fairly useless. For a start, it&#8217;s not at all clear to me what groups of parameters are the minimum to get a particular part of EM working. It also doesn&#8217;t really cover what I&#8217;m trying to do, which, following the procedures in these articles, is to set up oracle in three stages: </p>
<p>1/ install software<br />
2/ create database and listener (-emconfiguration NONE)<br />
3/ setup emca</p>
<p>Parts one and two are working like clockwork. Part three&#8211;not so much.</p>
<p>So, first I need to remove sysman, or emca crashes out. Is this bad or good? I dunno&#8230;found some code that does this.</p>
<p>Then unlocked DBSNMP and set password (also not documented) since I saw errors relating to this in early attempts. </p>
<p>Knocked together a script by a little guesswork and mostly piecing together things from the net:<br />
emca -config dbcontrol db -repos create -silent -SID oracle1 -PORT 1521 -ORACLE_HOME /u01/app/oracle -ORACLE_HOSTNAME prd-db-1 -DBSNMP_PWD dbsnmp -SYSMAN_PWD sysman -SYS_PWD ora123</p>
<p>emca likes this well enough, and completes..</p>
<p>INFO: Repository successfully created</p>
<p>however&#8230;<br />
emdb.nohup:<br />
The agentTZRegion value in /u01/app/oracle/ltxe-<br />
nabb-prd-db-1_nabbprdexp1/sysman/config/emd.properties is not in agreement with<br />
what agent thinks it should be.Please verify your environment to make sure that<br />
TZ setting has not changed since the last start of the agent.<br />
emdctl.trc:<br />
2008-10-10 15:36:18 Thread-1 WARN  http: snmehl_connect: connect failed to (prd-db-1:3938): Connection refused (error = 146)<br />
emoms.log:<br />
2008-10-10 14:31:21,203 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextIni<br />
tialized.271 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsCal<br />
GrpIntegration<br />
emoms.trc:<br />
2008-10-10 14:31:21,203 [Orion Launcher] ERROR app.ContextInitializer contextIni<br />
tialized.271 - Integration Class not found: oracle.sysman.ocs.mntr.target.OcsCal<br />
GrpIntegration</p>
<p>After a good chunk of my life is wasted, get this:<br />
SEVERE: Error starting Database Control</p>
<p>These are all issues I&#8217;m finding in hundreds of posts and everyone seems to be guessing what the cause is. I&#8217;ve seen some references to TZ issues and have three observations on that:<br />
1/ TZ is set correctly in oracle&#8217;s environment and Australia/Victoria is supposedly a supported value<br />
2/ Oracle thinks this timezone is GMT+11, which is wrong. It&#8217;s +10 except during EDT. Larry needs to check his homework more carefully.<br />
3/ WTF? If the TZ doesn&#8217;t work out, fall back to a default. Since when is this a critical error? What boneheads code this stuff?</p>
<p>The really infuriating bit is that with the interactive dbca option at initial install time, runInstaller sets up EM just fine, but I cannot find this code path!</p>
<p>One more observation: having EM log its problems in eight(?) different locations does not strike me as best practice.</p>
<p>Yes I am really pissed off with this!</p>
<p>Chuck</p>
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		<title>By: Grégory Guillou</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-288392</link>
		<dc:creator>Grégory Guillou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-288392</guid>
		<description>Try emca in silent mode. For more details, see:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B28359_01/server.111/b28319/emca.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try emca in silent mode. For more details, see:<br />
<a href="http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B28359_01/server.111/b28319/emca.htm" rel="nofollow">http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B28359_01/server.111/b28319/emca.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles Meo</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-288260</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Meo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-288260</guid>
		<description>This series of articles is top-notch, but there is one slight fly in the ointment. I've been trying to get EM working from the command line and had unending trouble--along with many other people, it seems, from what Google is returning. All I need is local mode, and using dbca interactively this works.

If anyone knows the incantation to get EM working reliably without the dbca GUI, I'd dearly like to know. I've tried emca command line and interactive, dbca at the create database stage, dbca -configureDatabase after it's built, nothing works. It just won't start. It's driving me nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This series of articles is top-notch, but there is one slight fly in the ointment. I&#8217;ve been trying to get EM working from the command line and had unending trouble&#8211;along with many other people, it seems, from what Google is returning. All I need is local mode, and using dbca interactively this works.</p>
<p>If anyone knows the incantation to get EM working reliably without the dbca GUI, I&#8217;d dearly like to know. I&#8217;ve tried emca command line and interactive, dbca at the create database stage, dbca -configureDatabase after it&#8217;s built, nothing works. It just won&#8217;t start. It&#8217;s driving me nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Oracle Silent Mode, Part 7: Installing an 11.1 RAC Database</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-257743</link>
		<dc:creator>Oracle Silent Mode, Part 7: Installing an 11.1 RAC Database</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-257743</guid>
		<description>[...] Installation of 10.2 And 11.1 Databases [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Installation of 10.2 And 11.1 Databases [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Grégory</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-254481</link>
		<dc:creator>Grégory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-254481</guid>
		<description>What Release/Patch are you installing on what platform ? That may be OCM that request a CSI to be configured but if that's the case, you can provide it or not install OCM. You should get your answer in the response file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Release/Patch are you installing on what platform ? That may be OCM that request a CSI to be configured but if that&#8217;s the case, you can provide it or not install OCM. You should get your answer in the response file.</p>
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		<title>By: Sudhi</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-254164</link>
		<dc:creator>Sudhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-254164</guid>
		<description>I'm invoking runInstaller from a bash script and the problem seems to be that when runInstaller completes, it waits for a  key at the end. This prevents subsequent lines in the script. Has anyone faced this and if so, figured out a way to fix/workaround that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m invoking runInstaller from a bash script and the problem seems to be that when runInstaller completes, it waits for a  key at the end. This prevents subsequent lines in the script. Has anyone faced this and if so, figured out a way to fix/workaround that?</p>
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		<title>By: Oracle Silent Mode, Part 6: Removing a Node From a 10.2 RAC</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-232990</link>
		<dc:creator>Oracle Silent Mode, Part 6: Removing a Node From a 10.2 RAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-232990</guid>
		<description>[...] Installation of 10.2 And 11.1 Databases [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Installation of 10.2 And 11.1 Databases [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Oracle Silent Mode, Part 2 : Patching 10.2 And 11.1 Databases</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-220052</link>
		<dc:creator>Oracle Silent Mode, Part 2 : Patching 10.2 And 11.1 Databases</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-220052</guid>
		<description>[...] Installation of 10.2 And 11.1 Databases [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Installation of 10.2 And 11.1 Databases [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Grégory</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-214298</link>
		<dc:creator>Grégory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1035/oracle-silent-mode-part-110-installation-of-102-and-111-databases#comment-214298</guid>
		<description>Eric,

Both It depends and you're right! That's why that's not a single post but a 10 post series. What you are talking about will be cover by the 3rd post (That is already written BTW). 

And actually you don't have to record any response files if you want. The ORACLE_HOME cloning procedure enables you to embed everything, including the OPatch patches in one step only with. You would then install the software with the clone.pl script. That's also part of post 3! Stay tuned...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Both It depends and you&#8217;re right! That&#8217;s why that&#8217;s not a single post but a 10 post series. What you are talking about will be cover by the 3rd post (That is already written BTW). </p>
<p>And actually you don&#8217;t have to record any response files if you want. The ORACLE_HOME cloning procedure enables you to embed everything, including the OPatch patches in one step only with. You would then install the software with the clone.pl script. That&#8217;s also part of post 3! Stay tuned&#8230;</p>
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