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	<title>Comments on: IOUG Collaborate 07: Oracle 10g Grid Control</title>
	<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/466/ioug-collaborate-07-oracle-10g-grid-control</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue,  7 Oct 2008 01:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pythian Group Blog &#187; IOUG SELECT Journal Article and Future Plans</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/466/ioug-collaborate-07-oracle-10g-grid-control#comment-95463</link>
		<dc:creator>Pythian Group Blog &#187; IOUG SELECT Journal Article and Future Plans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you are interested in that topic I should reference you back to my presentation from IOUG where I created a sample MySQL monitoring plugin. It wasn&#8217;t meant to become a full [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] you are interested in that topic I should reference you back to my presentation from IOUG where I created a sample MySQL monitoring plugin. It wasn&#8217;t meant to become a full [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Gorbachev</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/466/ioug-collaborate-07-oracle-10g-grid-control#comment-44971</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Gorbachev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;you changed my own attitudes towards it for the better ;-)&lt;/i&gt;

At least something I achieved in this life. ;)

Big problem with GUI's, generally - they obscure how the underline product works. I would attribute that to Oracle 10g Grid Control at least in some administration areas and in performance tuning. However,  the monitoring and data collection components are great and this is what I like the most in Grid Control so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>you changed my own attitudes towards it for the better ;-)</i></p>
<p>At least something I achieved in this life. ;)</p>
<p>Big problem with GUI&#8217;s, generally - they obscure how the underline product works. I would attribute that to Oracle 10g Grid Control at least in some administration areas and in performance tuning. However,  the monitoring and data collection components are great and this is what I like the most in Grid Control so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Burns</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/blogs/466/ioug-collaborate-07-oracle-10g-grid-control#comment-44942</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;... or because of some geographical influence: IOUG is attended predominantly by a North American audience compared to European-oriented contingent of UKOUG. It seems as though Grid Control has not been widely adopted in Europe.&lt;/i&gt;

Alex, whilst we've argued in the past about the importance of geographical influences, I think there is an argument that we're a bit more cynical and negative about GUI tools around here, based only on the sites and people I've worked with. 

I know myself that, although the last UK site I worked at was implementing Grid Control, you changed my own attitudes towards it for the better ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230; or because of some geographical influence: IOUG is attended predominantly by a North American audience compared to European-oriented contingent of UKOUG. It seems as though Grid Control has not been widely adopted in Europe.</i></p>
<p>Alex, whilst we&#8217;ve argued in the past about the importance of geographical influences, I think there is an argument that we&#8217;re a bit more cynical and negative about GUI tools around here, based only on the sites and people I&#8217;ve worked with. </p>
<p>I know myself that, although the last UK site I worked at was implementing Grid Control, you changed my own attitudes towards it for the better ;-)</p>
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