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		<title>By: A grand tour of Oracle Exadata, Part 1 &#124; The Pythian Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>A grand tour of Oracle Exadata, Part 1 &#124; The Pythian Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oracle first introduced Exadata at OpenWorld 2008, it was aimed squarely at the data warehouse market dominated by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Karl Van den Bergh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Van den Bergh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

Thanks for the mention of Kickfire. On the question of Kickfire vs Moore&#039;s Law I would point your readers&#039; to a blog posting we did on the topic: http://www.kickfire.com/blog/?p=19. In essence, the Kickfire chip architecture is based on dataflow, not instruction-flow. The dataflow architecture is fundamentally more efficient for large data volume processing. This is why, as has happened in other industries before, once the transition to dataflow has been made it is next to impossible for general-purpose CPUs to catch up. This is why Nvidia still leads in graphics, not Intel, and why Juniper and Cisco use specialized routing chips not processors from Intel or AMD. 

Btw, Oracle&#039;s Exadata server is much more akin to Netezza than to Kickfire. Both use hardware to filter from disk to memory. In both cases though SQL is still executed on general-purpose CPUs, not on a SQL chip.

Karl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>Thanks for the mention of Kickfire. On the question of Kickfire vs Moore&#8217;s Law I would point your readers&#8217; to a blog posting we did on the topic: <a href="http://www.kickfire.com/blog/?p=19" rel="nofollow">http://www.kickfire.com/blog/?p=19</a>. In essence, the Kickfire chip architecture is based on dataflow, not instruction-flow. The dataflow architecture is fundamentally more efficient for large data volume processing. This is why, as has happened in other industries before, once the transition to dataflow has been made it is next to impossible for general-purpose CPUs to catch up. This is why Nvidia still leads in graphics, not Intel, and why Juniper and Cisco use specialized routing chips not processors from Intel or AMD. </p>
<p>Btw, Oracle&#8217;s Exadata server is much more akin to Netezza than to Kickfire. Both use hardware to filter from disk to memory. In both cases though SQL is still executed on general-purpose CPUs, not on a SQL chip.</p>
<p>Karl</p>
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		<title>By: Roland Bouman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland Bouman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

thanks for passing on the news, much appreciated. 

Just wondering about this:

&quot;By the way, I made a bit with Paul Cunningham that Kickfire would fail because of Mooreâ€™s law.&quot;

Maybe it&#039;s ignorance on my part, but I don&#039;t see what you mean. Genuinly interested, can you pls. explain? TIA, 

Roland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>thanks for passing on the news, much appreciated. </p>
<p>Just wondering about this:</p>
<p>&#8220;By the way, I made a bit with Paul Cunningham that Kickfire would fail because of Mooreâ€™s law.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s ignorance on my part, but I don&#8217;t see what you mean. Genuinly interested, can you pls. explain? TIA, </p>
<p>Roland.</p>
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		<title>By: jg</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, do you have more comments on the kickfire thing? I can&#039;t understand that very well.

By the way, I made a bit with Paul Cunningham that Kickfire would fail because of Mooreâ€™s law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, do you have more comments on the kickfire thing? I can&#8217;t understand that very well.</p>
<p>By the way, I made a bit with Paul Cunningham that Kickfire would fail because of Mooreâ€™s law.</p>
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