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	<title>Comments on: Cut Oracle Costs on Mainframe</title>
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		<title>By: Shakir Sadikali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shakir Sadikali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mr. Ed.  It&#039;s Yes, and No.  Yes the base costs have been eliminated, however, the greater cost savings was due to the license.  The single multi-CPU license covering all the vm&#039;s vs many licenses was the deciding factor.  My understanding was that you could provide each VM with a specific resource set (MIPS), so you can can actually let them have access to an actual number of CPU cycles, as opposed to processors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mr. Ed.  It&#8217;s Yes, and No.  Yes the base costs have been eliminated, however, the greater cost savings was due to the license.  The single multi-CPU license covering all the vm&#8217;s vs many licenses was the deciding factor.  My understanding was that you could provide each VM with a specific resource set (MIPS), so you can can actually let them have access to an actual number of CPU cycles, as opposed to processors.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be clear, you&#039;re running virtual machines on the z/OS, and the cost savings is because you&#039;re eliminating the &quot;base&quot; cost of the other machines?  For example, a 32-processor Oracle license on z/OS might be cheaper than 4 16-processor licenses on HPUX, and you can set up 4 virtual machines on the z/OS that, say, pool CPUs to provide each VM with 16 virtual processors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be clear, you&#8217;re running virtual machines on the z/OS, and the cost savings is because you&#8217;re eliminating the &#8220;base&#8221; cost of the other machines?  For example, a 32-processor Oracle license on z/OS might be cheaper than 4 16-processor licenses on HPUX, and you can set up 4 virtual machines on the z/OS that, say, pool CPUs to provide each VM with 16 virtual processors?</p>
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		<title>By: sadikali</title>
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		<dc:creator>sadikali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it&#039;s pretty significant.  Now, imagine you had 10 of these servers and you could move all of your machines&#039; work to ONE mainframe?  While JCL is not my cup of tea, i can see why there are so many people drinking it!  It&#039;s saving on a completely differnt scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s pretty significant.  Now, imagine you had 10 of these servers and you could move all of your machines&#8217; work to ONE mainframe?  While JCL is not my cup of tea, i can see why there are so many people drinking it!  It&#8217;s saving on a completely differnt scale.</p>
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		<title>By: vidya</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/294/cut-oracle-costs-on-mainframe/#comment-7047</link>
		<dc:creator>vidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>talking about bringing down license costs - the Solaris 10 container/ zone model will help shave off some per CPU costs if your Oracle Server does not utilize all the CPU resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>talking about bringing down license costs &#8211; the Solaris 10 container/ zone model will help shave off some per CPU costs if your Oracle Server does not utilize all the CPU resources.</p>
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