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		<title>By: Mila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incorrect query- 
If you have materialized views , make sure the parameter query_rewrite_enable set to FALSE.
This was my case with CBO and RBO. CBO was choosing mview instead of table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incorrect query-<br />
If you have materialized views , make sure the parameter query_rewrite_enable set to FALSE.<br />
This was my case with CBO and RBO. CBO was choosing mview instead of table.</p>
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		<title>By: Raj Thukral</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raj Thukral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 12:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris
There&#039;s been a few bugs with queries in oracle, but I doubt thats a function of the CBO.  You probably need to take a closer look at your query - its likely the order of joins changes the results, which usually means a bad query or a bad join somewhere.  Using the rule hint can change the order of joins.
--Raj.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris<br />
There&#8217;s been a few bugs with queries in oracle, but I doubt thats a function of the CBO.  You probably need to take a closer look at your query &#8211; its likely the order of joins changes the results, which usually means a bad query or a bad join somewhere.  Using the rule hint can change the order of joins.<br />
&#8211;Raj.</p>
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		<title>By: chris dittaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris dittaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 21:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are having some scary things happening with incorrect query results when running CBO-based statements in our 10G db.  When we run the same query ruled-based, it returns the correct result.  Tried to add the system parameter:
set &quot;_cost_equality_semi_join&quot;=false as a workaround (from the Bug fix doc) but it didn&#039;t change a thing.  
does anyone have an answer/fix for this one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are having some scary things happening with incorrect query results when running CBO-based statements in our 10G db.  When we run the same query ruled-based, it returns the correct result.  Tried to add the system parameter:<br />
set &#8220;_cost_equality_semi_join&#8221;=false as a workaround (from the Bug fix doc) but it didn&#8217;t change a thing.<br />
does anyone have an answer/fix for this one?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Gorbachev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Gorbachev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/profile/16659099732079480206&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dmitry Bogomolov&lt;/a&gt;, our Russian readers can enjoy &lt;a href=&quot;http://oraclemaniacs.blogspot.com/2007/01/rman.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a translated version&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/16659099732079480206" rel="nofollow">Dmitry Bogomolov</a>, our Russian readers can enjoy <a href="http://oraclemaniacs.blogspot.com/2007/01/rman.html" rel="nofollow">a translated version</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: vidya</title>
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		<dc:creator>vidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raj,
this is scary , I really thought that RULE was totally out in 10g.....i hope there has been no issues with query performances</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raj,<br />
this is scary , I really thought that RULE was totally out in 10g&#8230;..i hope there has been no issues with query performances</p>
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		<title>By: Fairlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fairlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What amazes me is that the 10G Docs say that RBO is desupported and the workaround in the bug is to use RBO ...lol :-)
I had another issue a couple of days ago where a query gave incorrect results with CBO but the correct results with the RBO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What amazes me is that the 10G Docs say that RBO is desupported and the workaround in the bug is to use RBO &#8230;lol :-)<br />
I had another issue a couple of days ago where a query gave incorrect results with CBO but the correct results with the RBO.</p>
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		<title>By: Jsffar Hussain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jsffar Hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, Raj, the note says that the issues is when &#039;RMAN SLOW PERFORMANCE DURING RESITER DATABASE/OPEN RESETLOGS&#039; Is the same with typical backups as well?

Jaffar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, Raj, the note says that the issues is when &#8216;RMAN SLOW PERFORMANCE DURING RESITER DATABASE/OPEN RESETLOGS&#8217; Is the same with typical backups as well?</p>
<p>Jaffar</p>
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		<title>By: Don Seiler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Seiler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Offhand, do you think this would have any effect on restore/duplication times?  My duplications take ~ 8 hours as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Offhand, do you think this would have any effect on restore/duplication times?  My duplications take ~ 8 hours as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Seiler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Seiler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMFG.  I just ran the two test queries in the &quot;REDISCOVERY INFORMATION&quot; section of the bug.  Without the rule hint, the query ran in 1:15:24.79.  With rule hint, it ran in 00:00:00.14.  I even tested new ranges to make sure nothing was cached.

My level 0 backup of my ~ 840 gb database has been taking over 9 hours.  I can&#039;t wait to see what this does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMFG.  I just ran the two test queries in the &#8220;REDISCOVERY INFORMATION&#8221; section of the bug.  Without the rule hint, the query ran in 1:15:24.79.  With rule hint, it ran in 00:00:00.14.  I even tested new ranges to make sure nothing was cached.</p>
<p>My level 0 backup of my ~ 840 gb database has been taking over 9 hours.  I can&#8217;t wait to see what this does.</p>
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		<title>By: Noons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very useful stuff to know.
thanks, Raj!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very useful stuff to know.<br />
thanks, Raj!</p>
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