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	<title>Comments on: Sequences in Oracle 10g RAC</title>
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		<title>By: Christo Kutrovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/383/sequences-in-oracle-10g-rac/#comment-571981</link>
		<dc:creator>Christo Kutrovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subrata, what does the official Oracle Documentation say about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subrata, what does the official Oracle Documentation say about this?</p>
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		<title>By: subrata saha</title>
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		<dc:creator>subrata saha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cache+noredered option in RAC - does it gurantee order within an instance of RAC according to call to this Sequence

regards
subrata saha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cache+noredered option in RAC &#8211; does it gurantee order within an instance of RAC according to call to this Sequence</p>
<p>regards<br />
subrata saha</p>
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		<title>By: Christo Kutrovsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christo Kutrovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi TalkingHead,

I think it&#039;s correct as written. What I mean is that even &quot;noordered&quot; sequence can have a significant overhead if they use the default cache size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi TalkingHead,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s correct as written. What I mean is that even &#8220;noordered&#8221; sequence can have a significant overhead if they use the default cache size.</p>
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		<title>By: TalkingHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>TalkingHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a typo in the sentence below
&quot;With a smaller cache, the “noordered” still has as significant impact as every 10 fetches (cache 20 divided by 2 nodes fetching) it has to synchronize between the 2 nodes&quot; 


Did you mean to say &quot;ordered&quot;  instead of &quot;noordered&quot; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a typo in the sentence below<br />
&#8220;With a smaller cache, the “noordered” still has as significant impact as every 10 fetches (cache 20 divided by 2 nodes fetching) it has to synchronize between the 2 nodes&#8221; </p>
<p>Did you mean to say &#8220;ordered&#8221;  instead of &#8220;noordered&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Oracle Performance: DFS Lock Handle and Oracle Sequence &#124; twit88.com</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/383/sequences-in-oracle-10g-rac/#comment-372117</link>
		<dc:creator>Oracle Performance: DFS Lock Handle and Oracle Sequence &#124; twit88.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rakesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rakesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Can any one tell me the procedure to change the cache size and sequence type? Is there any way to determine the cache size for a particular database? I know I am asking silly questions but I didn&#039;t find appropriate material? A link to appropriate material will also be helpful?

Thanking you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Can any one tell me the procedure to change the cache size and sequence type? Is there any way to determine the cache size for a particular database? I know I am asking silly questions but I didn&#8217;t find appropriate material? A link to appropriate material will also be helpful?</p>
<p>Thanking you</p>
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		<title>By: Larry T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always approached a SEQUENCE OBJECT as simply a way to guarantee uniqueness for a surrogate key - nothing else.  Once you start adding expectations on SEQUENCEs that go beyond that, it will add overhead, complexity and risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always approached a SEQUENCE OBJECT as simply a way to guarantee uniqueness for a surrogate key &#8211; nothing else.  Once you start adding expectations on SEQUENCEs that go beyond that, it will add overhead, complexity and risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Christo Kutrovsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christo Kutrovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>average925joe:

Cached sequence values are lost in an instance crash. They can also be lost during pressure for memory in the shared pool. You should not rely on not loosing numbers.

IF you need to have a no-gap type sequence, you will need to pre-populate a table and manage it there.
With a sequence, you could loose numbers simply by requesting the next number, and rolling back after that. So even a nocache can &quot;loose&quot; numbers in that sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>average925joe:</p>
<p>Cached sequence values are lost in an instance crash. They can also be lost during pressure for memory in the shared pool. You should not rely on not loosing numbers.</p>
<p>IF you need to have a no-gap type sequence, you will need to pre-populate a table and manage it there.<br />
With a sequence, you could loose numbers simply by requesting the next number, and rolling back after that. So even a nocache can &#8220;loose&#8221; numbers in that sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francisco H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great finding. However, our results draw a different conclusion. If you increase the loop size to 500,000 the size of the cache has no effect from 2000 to 20000. Performance is aweful when ordered.

Type	Cache	Order	Loop size	Time in Sec
1N	20	N	 50,000 	2.6
2N	20	N	 50,000 	11
1N	20	Y	 50,000 	3.3
2N	20	Y	 50,000 	28
2N	2000	Y	 50,000 	13
2N	20000	Y	 50,000 	11
2N	20000	Y	 500,000 	180
2N	2000	Y	 500,000 	160
1N	2000	Y	 500,000 	21
2N	2000	N	 500,000 	13
2N	20000	N	 500,000 	13
1N	20000	N	 500,000 	14

1N 	One Node			
2N 	Two Node Simultaneous runs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great finding. However, our results draw a different conclusion. If you increase the loop size to 500,000 the size of the cache has no effect from 2000 to 20000. Performance is aweful when ordered.</p>
<p>Type	Cache	Order	Loop size	Time in Sec<br />
1N	20	N	 50,000 	2.6<br />
2N	20	N	 50,000 	11<br />
1N	20	Y	 50,000 	3.3<br />
2N	20	Y	 50,000 	28<br />
2N	2000	Y	 50,000 	13<br />
2N	20000	Y	 50,000 	11<br />
2N	20000	Y	 500,000 	180<br />
2N	2000	Y	 500,000 	160<br />
1N	2000	Y	 500,000 	21<br />
2N	2000	N	 500,000 	13<br />
2N	20000	N	 500,000 	13<br />
1N	20000	N	 500,000 	14</p>
<p>1N 	One Node<br />
2N 	Two Node Simultaneous runs</p>
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		<title>By: average925joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>average925joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris, 

what happens to sequence values cached in SGA at the time of an instance crash (with cache option)? I read somewhere that you would loose values (sequence gap) but does that apply to a database restart or an instance crash? how can sequences be catered through the application (pre-generated) or using dbms_random or creating a procedure ? would appreciate your reply. 

Thanks


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris, </p>
<p>what happens to sequence values cached in SGA at the time of an instance crash (with cache option)? I read somewhere that you would loose values (sequence gap) but does that apply to a database restart or an instance crash? how can sequences be catered through the application (pre-generated) or using dbms_random or creating a procedure ? would appreciate your reply. </p>
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