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		<title>By: r1b2</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/6427/a-mysql-community-member-opinion-of-oracle-buying-sun/#comment-422997</link>
		<dc:creator>r1b2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me it&#039;s like if Microsoft had bought a linux distrib, they do not have the same goals. An open source software should not be included in a company like Oracle, and should be kept independant. In any case, it is a big disappointment for the open source community

(To much power in only one hand... I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a good idea!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me it&#8217;s like if Microsoft had bought a linux distrib, they do not have the same goals. An open source software should not be included in a company like Oracle, and should be kept independant. In any case, it is a big disappointment for the open source community</p>
<p>(To much power in only one hand&#8230; I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a good idea!)</p>
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		<title>By: Monty Widenius Is Still Trying to Save MySQL From Itself &#124; Digitivity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monty Widenius Is Still Trying to Save MySQL From Itself &#124; Digitivity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why Oracle Won&#8217;t Kill MySQL [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 451 CAOS Theory &#187; Everything you always wanted to know about MySQL but were afraid to ask - part three</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/6427/a-mysql-community-member-opinion-of-oracle-buying-sun/#comment-396331</link>
		<dc:creator>451 CAOS Theory &#187; Everything you always wanted to know about MySQL but were afraid to ask - part three</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 16: Sheeri Cabral - A MySQL Community Member Opinion of Oracle Buying Sun &#8220;The FUD about Oracle slowing development MySQL are not valid, and not true. The motivations [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Save MySQL by letting Oracle keep it GPL &#124; The Pythian Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/6427/a-mysql-community-member-opinion-of-oracle-buying-sun/#comment-395315</link>
		<dc:creator>Save MySQL by letting Oracle keep it GPL &#124; The Pythian Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A MySQL Community Member Opinion of Oracle Buying Sun [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sheeri</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/6427/a-mysql-community-member-opinion-of-oracle-buying-sun/#comment-395155</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suhail -- maybe that&#039;s how it works in your environment, but Pythian has a thriving MySQL practice because MySQL is used successfully in many large enterprises for critical workloads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suhail &#8212; maybe that&#8217;s how it works in your environment, but Pythian has a thriving MySQL practice because MySQL is used successfully in many large enterprises for critical workloads.</p>
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		<title>By: suhail ansari</title>
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		<dc:creator>suhail ansari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you. The main point is that Oracle is used mostly in large enterprises and MySql is mostly used in non-critical workload. Oracle and MySql doesn&#039;t compete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you. The main point is that Oracle is used mostly in large enterprises and MySql is mostly used in non-critical workload. Oracle and MySql doesn&#8217;t compete.</p>
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		<title>By: Heidi Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heidi Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure dodger was trying to say this or not... I wouldn&#039;t want to put words there that aren&#039;t. 

From my perspective, I would not say that Oracle sidelined Innodb. 

I do think that Innodb could have given more of it&#039;s original propeller head statistics to the embedded MySQL innodb engine.
As it is, most of the create table(s) to have more complete status output slows MySQL down and doesn&#039;t give as much as the plugin information_schema tables show on Innodb&#039;s site such as the ones listed here at http://www.innodb.com/doc/innodb_plugin-1.0/innodb-information-schema.html 

If Oracle wanted to promote Innodb more the company would have worked harder to put it out there on OTN (oracle tech net) 

It&#039;s hard for me to say if that was an oversight or that other products were chosen for focus. 

I would like to see a little bit more of the information_schema and internals of it supported in the GA release of MySQL. 

For example, Oracle has had for awhile an ORA-0600 Metalink plugin executable with which you can put in the codes found in a trace file dumped to the operating system. 

From there it is easier to see what part of the C code it is related to and begin to orient where to focus attention to a problem. 

If show innodb engine status output could be plugged into such a link then some of the codes would make more sense (to me)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure dodger was trying to say this or not&#8230; I wouldn&#8217;t want to put words there that aren&#8217;t. </p>
<p>From my perspective, I would not say that Oracle sidelined Innodb. </p>
<p>I do think that Innodb could have given more of it&#8217;s original propeller head statistics to the embedded MySQL innodb engine.<br />
As it is, most of the create table(s) to have more complete status output slows MySQL down and doesn&#8217;t give as much as the plugin information_schema tables show on Innodb&#8217;s site such as the ones listed here at <a href="http://www.innodb.com/doc/innodb_plugin-1.0/innodb-information-schema.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.innodb.com/doc/innodb_plugin-1.0/innodb-information-schema.html</a> </p>
<p>If Oracle wanted to promote Innodb more the company would have worked harder to put it out there on OTN (oracle tech net) </p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard for me to say if that was an oversight or that other products were chosen for focus. </p>
<p>I would like to see a little bit more of the information_schema and internals of it supported in the GA release of MySQL. </p>
<p>For example, Oracle has had for awhile an ORA-0600 Metalink plugin executable with which you can put in the codes found in a trace file dumped to the operating system. </p>
<p>From there it is easier to see what part of the C code it is related to and begin to orient where to focus attention to a problem. </p>
<p>If show innodb engine status output could be plugged into such a link then some of the codes would make more sense (to me)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Vallee</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/6427/a-mysql-community-member-opinion-of-oracle-buying-sun/#comment-393163</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Vallee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably dodger is referring to innodb using the plug-in interface instead of being bundled. This is for reasons other than those dodger suspects, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably dodger is referring to innodb using the plug-in interface instead of being bundled. This is for reasons other than those dodger suspects, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheeri Cabral</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheeri Cabral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dodger -- I&#039;m not sure what you mean by &quot;second stage mysql storage system&quot; -- certainly MySQL thought it was important to develop a transactional storage engine that they owned, but see my point about Falcon.  If Oracle had slowed development on InnoDB, almost everyone who uses MySQL would have been crippled too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodger &#8212; I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by &#8220;second stage mysql storage system&#8221; &#8212; certainly MySQL thought it was important to develop a transactional storage engine that they owned, but see my point about Falcon.  If Oracle had slowed development on InnoDB, almost everyone who uses MySQL would have been crippled too.</p>
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		<title>By: dodger</title>
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		<dc:creator>dodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think your main argument with innodb is not as true as you say, cause innodb was moved to a sencond stage as mysql storage system since Oracle bought it.
i simply prefer that other company buy Sun, as everyone say IBM might be the best due their contributions at opensource world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think your main argument with innodb is not as true as you say, cause innodb was moved to a sencond stage as mysql storage system since Oracle bought it.<br />
i simply prefer that other company buy Sun, as everyone say IBM might be the best due their contributions at opensource world.</p>
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