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	<title>Comments on: Oracle, Sun, MySQL: A Grand Conspiracy?</title>
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		<title>By: Vasile Ceteras</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/784/oracle-sun-mysql-conspiracy/#comment-355544</link>
		<dc:creator>Vasile Ceteras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grégory was right, Mysql is not &quot;a real transactional database&quot;, transactions are supported through the storage engines, which is a little awkward IMHO.

&quot;MySQL doesn’t manage transactions at the server level. Instead, the underlying storage
engines implement transactions themselves. This means you can’t reliably mix
different engines in a single transaction. MySQL AB is working on adding a higherlevel
transaction management service to the server, which will make it safe to mix
and match transactional tables in a transaction. Until then, be careful.&quot; fom High Performance Mysql, O&#039;Reilly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grégory was right, Mysql is not &#8220;a real transactional database&#8221;, transactions are supported through the storage engines, which is a little awkward IMHO.</p>
<p>&#8220;MySQL doesn’t manage transactions at the server level. Instead, the underlying storage<br />
engines implement transactions themselves. This means you can’t reliably mix<br />
different engines in a single transaction. MySQL AB is working on adding a higherlevel<br />
transaction management service to the server, which will make it safe to mix<br />
and match transactional tables in a transaction. Until then, be careful.&#8221; fom High Performance Mysql, O&#8217;Reilly.</p>
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		<title>By: wmonou</title>
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		<dc:creator>wmonou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn, i hope mysql will be not dead.

I like it since it is free and light for develop mid level website. 

well if mysql is dead, i will change to postgresql anyway. i dont want to bother buying such expensive db like oracle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn, i hope mysql will be not dead.</p>
<p>I like it since it is free and light for develop mid level website. </p>
<p>well if mysql is dead, i will change to postgresql anyway. i dont want to bother buying such expensive db like oracle.</p>
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		<title>By: Gil Standen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gil Standen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this game just changed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this game just changed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Gorbachev</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/784/oracle-sun-mysql-conspiracy/#comment-162780</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Gorbachev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregory, interesting points. Thanks.
I want to share that this week&#039;s RMOUG conference included couple MySQL presentations and how it can fit with Oracle products via... guess what? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory, interesting points. Thanks.<br />
I want to share that this week&#8217;s RMOUG conference included couple MySQL presentations and how it can fit with Oracle products via&#8230; guess what? ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: joel garry</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/784/oracle-sun-mysql-conspiracy/#comment-152414</link>
		<dc:creator>joel garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would Oracle bother to kill mysql?  Look where their revenue comes from.  It ain&#039;t the db.  Notice how their financials mung the db and middleware together so it looks like apps have a lower revenue that is increasing faster.  If you could compare db vs apps, apps would have a higher revenue that is increasing faster.

In 5 years, the Oracle apps and middleware could easily be churning out more $ with mysql backends than from the Oracle db.  I think Dvorak got it backwards.  Sun sells hardware.  Everything they do is to support that.  Oracle sells growing market software.  Everything they do is to support that.  Quarterly Marketing spin notwithstanding.

Please understand, I&#039;m a db geek and a fan of the oracle db.  But this is what I see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would Oracle bother to kill mysql?  Look where their revenue comes from.  It ain&#8217;t the db.  Notice how their financials mung the db and middleware together so it looks like apps have a lower revenue that is increasing faster.  If you could compare db vs apps, apps would have a higher revenue that is increasing faster.</p>
<p>In 5 years, the Oracle apps and middleware could easily be churning out more $ with mysql backends than from the Oracle db.  I think Dvorak got it backwards.  Sun sells hardware.  Everything they do is to support that.  Oracle sells growing market software.  Everything they do is to support that.  Quarterly Marketing spin notwithstanding.</p>
<p>Please understand, I&#8217;m a db geek and a fan of the oracle db.  But this is what I see.</p>
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		<title>By: GrÃ©gory</title>
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		<dc:creator>GrÃ©gory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops,

You&#039;re right ! This is no what I meant. I meant put MySQL on steroids to compete with Oracle features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right ! This is no what I meant. I meant put MySQL on steroids to compete with Oracle features.</p>
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		<title>By: Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz</title>
		<link>http://www.pythian.com/news/784/oracle-sun-mysql-conspiracy/#comment-152136</link>
		<dc:creator>Hakan Kuecuekyilmaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very simple: Oracle is a company which wants to make money, because they are share holder oriented. In the current state, Oracle cannot compete in the market of web/online databases. Therefore, it would be plain stupid and waste of time to set up a plot like &quot;we let another company buy MySQL and then kill it&quot;.

My second comment is about a detail: SAPDB, former MaxDB is the default database of SAP, it is used in SAP&#039;s latest product &quot;Business by Design&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very simple: Oracle is a company which wants to make money, because they are share holder oriented. In the current state, Oracle cannot compete in the market of web/online databases. Therefore, it would be plain stupid and waste of time to set up a plot like &#8220;we let another company buy MySQL and then kill it&#8221;.</p>
<p>My second comment is about a detail: SAPDB, former MaxDB is the default database of SAP, it is used in SAP&#8217;s latest product &#8220;Business by Design&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: oops</title>
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		<dc:creator>oops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What if Sun try to turn MySQL into a real transactional database ?&quot;
Wow. You know a lot about MySQL, don&#039;t you?
Seriously, time to upgrade your knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What if Sun try to turn MySQL into a real transactional database ?&#8221;<br />
Wow. You know a lot about MySQL, don&#8217;t you?<br />
Seriously, time to upgrade your knowledge.</p>
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