Comments on: Product management, effective developers, and the future of MySQL http://www.pythian.com/news/8867/product-management-effective-developers-and-the-future-of-mysql/ News and views from Pythian DBAs Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:01:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Log Buffer #180: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs | The Pythian Blog http://www.pythian.com/news/8867/product-management-effective-developers-and-the-future-of-mysql/#comment-410197 Log Buffer #180: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs | The Pythian Blog Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:05:25 +0000 http://www.pythian.com/news/?p=8867#comment-410197 [...] Vallée of Pythian responds with his ideas on product management, effective developers, and the future of MySQL. “ . . . the future of MySQL, Drizzle, Monty Program, the Percona fork, [...] [...] Vallée of Pythian responds with his ideas on product management, effective developers, and the future of MySQL. “ . . . the future of MySQL, Drizzle, Monty Program, the Percona fork, [...]

]]> By: jobin http://www.pythian.com/news/8867/product-management-effective-developers-and-the-future-of-mysql/#comment-409187 jobin Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:49:22 +0000 http://www.pythian.com/news/?p=8867#comment-409187 or we may see a collapse of a giant fish affected with "virus". oracle very effectively used the OSS virus against every opponents and gain the market. but it won't be a big surprise for me if the same affect their own business. They That Take The Sword Shall Perish With The Sword (Matthew 26:52) or we may see a collapse of a giant fish affected with “virus”.
oracle very effectively used the OSS virus against every opponents and gain the market. but it won’t be a big surprise for me if the same affect their own business.

They That Take The Sword Shall Perish
With The Sword (Matthew 26:52)

]]> By: Mark Callaghan http://www.pythian.com/news/8867/product-management-effective-developers-and-the-future-of-mysql/#comment-409101 Mark Callaghan Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:41:47 +0000 http://www.pythian.com/news/?p=8867#comment-409101 I think the bar will be raised for the forks as official MySQL is in good shape -- InnoDB and MySQL can work together now, releases will have fewer delays and MySQL marketing will focus more on growing their business. I think the bar will be raised for the forks as official MySQL is in good shape — InnoDB and MySQL can work together now, releases will have fewer delays and MySQL marketing will focus more on growing their business.

]]> By: Paul Vallee http://www.pythian.com/news/8867/product-management-effective-developers-and-the-future-of-mysql/#comment-409041 Paul Vallee Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:19:54 +0000 http://www.pythian.com/news/?p=8867#comment-409041 Hi Kostja, If what you’re saying is that the competing forks have incomplete roadmaps, unambitious roadmaps, suspicious quality development, etc. I fail to see how you are disagreeing with me at all. While I would hesitate to comment on the status and quality of the forks – that’s not the point of my post at all. What I’m getting at is that there is, other than the “bunch of trademark (logo) and copyright (docs) ownerships)” there is an even playing field here thanks to the GPL. And the best PM+DEV team will win market share. And multiple winners can exist since this is not a zero-sum game. I also believe that it is madness to underestimate Oracle given their track record at PM, which is impressive and consistent over the time I’ve been watching until now (early 1990s to now – well over 15 years), and their access to leading developers in the database field. :) Cheers Paul Hi Kostja,

If what you’re saying is that the competing forks have incomplete roadmaps, unambitious roadmaps, suspicious quality development, etc. I fail to see how you are disagreeing with me at all.

While I would hesitate to comment on the status and quality of the forks – that’s not the point of my post at all. What I’m getting at is that there is, other than the “bunch of trademark (logo) and copyright (docs) ownerships)” there is an even playing field here thanks to the GPL. And the best PM+DEV team will win market share. And multiple winners can exist since this is not a zero-sum game.

I also believe that it is madness to underestimate Oracle given their track record at PM, which is impressive and consistent over the time I’ve been watching until now (early 1990s to now – well over 15 years), and their access to leading developers in the database field. :)

Cheers
Paul

]]> By: kostja http://www.pythian.com/news/8867/product-management-effective-developers-and-the-future-of-mysql/#comment-409021 kostja Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:09:43 +0000 http://www.pythian.com/news/?p=8867#comment-409021 I think you're making a mistake in attempt to portray something that may happen as if it has already happened. MariaDB went GA just a few months ago (the question of quality of this GA being shunned, eh?) Drizzle is not GA yet. Percona is a patch set and not an independent fork -- I trust you can see the difference. When these forks begin to provide community with regular quality releases, like MySQL has been doing all these years, we can compare apples to apples. And so far it's more or less much ado about nothing. I think you’re making a mistake in attempt to portray something that may happen as if it has already happened. MariaDB went GA just a few months ago (the question of quality of this GA being shunned, eh?) Drizzle is not GA yet.
Percona is a patch set and not an independent fork — I trust you can see the difference.
When these forks begin to provide community with regular quality releases, like MySQL has been doing all these years, we can compare apples to apples.
And so far it’s more or less much ado about nothing.

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